Grateful Dead Live at Barton Hall - Cornell University on 1977-05-08
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- Publication date
- 1977-05-08 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Soundboard, Dan Haugh, Matrix, 24 bit
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 3.6G
New Minglewood Blues
Loser
El Paso
They Love Each Other
Jack Straw
Deal
Lazy Lightnin' ->
Supplication
Brown Eyed Women
Mama Tried
Row Jimmy
Dancing In The Street
Set 2
Scarlet Begonias ->
Fire On The Mountain
Estimated Prophet
Saint Stephen ->
Not Fade Away ->
Saint Stephen ->
Morning Dew
Encore
One More Saturday Night
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Versions - Different performances of the song by the same artist
Compilations - Other albums which feature this performance of the song
Covers - Performances of a song with the same name by different artists
Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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Minglewood Blues | |||
Loser | |||
El Paso | |||
They Love Each Other | |||
Jack Straw | |||
Deal | |||
Lazy Lightning > | |||
Supplication | |||
Brown Eyed Women | |||
Mama Tried | |||
Row Jimmy | |||
Dancin' In The Streets | |||
Take A Step Back | |||
Scarlet Begonias > | |||
Fire On The Mountain | |||
Estimated Prophet | |||
Saint Stephen > | |||
Not Fade Away > | |||
Saint Stephen > | |||
Morning Dew | |||
Saturday Night |
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Source Info
SBD
SBD (Betty Board) > Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @
7.5ips > Sony PCM501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital
Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on
Panasonic 4100 DAT > DB 924 D/A > Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22
Cards > DB 124 A/D > Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console) >
DB 300S > Panasonic 4100 DAT>DAT>Digi Coax Cable > Tascam
CD-RW700 > CDR (x1) > SHN (Rob Eaton remaster)
AUD1
Jerry Moore's MAC > Reel > CD
Sony 153 master, w/ ECM 33P's, on Maxell UDXL-II's, Dolby B,
copied via Teac AN-180 Dolby box onto Sony TC 755, Scotch
Classic 10.5 inch reel, 7.5 ips, Dolby B - Transfer by Rob
Berger (1/05), Sony TC 850>Teac AN-180>Sony SBM1 super bit
mapper > Tascam CD-Rw4U > SHN
AUD2
Steve Maizner > Sony ECM-990 > Sony TC-152 aud master >
First Gen Reel > Played directly to hard drive > CDR > SHN
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Tech Notes
SHNs were decoded to wave and SF 6.0 was used to reassemble
the tracks back to 1 long wave. CEP2.0 was used to align &
synch the SBD & both AUD sources. CEP2.0 used to adjust
the volume for the SBD & both AUDs. CEP was used to do the
multitrack mixdown to 24/96. This is a 60% SBD, 20% AUD1,
20% AUD2 mix. DiscWelder was used to author and create the
DVD-Audio in 24/96. DVD Decryptor read and created the ISO
image file. This incorporates 2 channels of 24/96 wave files.
- Mixed by dan@am-dig.com
- FLAC conversion 08-MAY-2005
- Artwork by dan@am-dig.com 300dpi - For best results
print at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper.
Design for use with a clear slim double DVD case.
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Notes
I looked at the 4 pages of notes I had on this project and
it made me sick to think about typing them up. So, although
not complete, you will get a good idea of what was done to
bring these recordings to this point.
This represents the 24 bit files that are the result of all
my editing and the multitrack mixdown. It is unclear exactly
what we have in the way of high resolution. However it seems
there is agreement that what we have cannot be represented
accurately in 16/44. What you are getting is the full result
of the matrix mix process. How much different does this sound?
is this better? A little and yes. This is more accurate and
has more dynamic range. 24/96 resolution versus a 16/44 of
the same material will usually result in very subtle but
important differences. Most of it relying on the quality of
the DVD-A player and the D to A conversion. With that in
mind, this 24 bit copy is no different. Small but important
gains over the same material in 16/44. This is just one
man's take. Take it or leave it.
ALLOT of editing was done to keep the flow btwn songs. Both
AUD recordings suffered from btwn song pauses that not only
cut the crowd cheer out but clipped the beginning of many
songs. The 2 AUD source coverage allowed my to patch 1 with
the other in some situations. A couple spots I created a
fake AUD recording by mixing crowd cheer with the SBD. This
was effective at creating patches for the rear channels in
the 5.1 presentation but also maintained a smooth quality in
the stereo matrix mix as well. These patches are numerous
and I think completely smooth and most likely undetectable.
The SBD+AUD matrix details. The stereo matrix it is approx
60% SBD, 20% Jerry Moore's AUD and 20% Steve Maizner's AUD.
The matrix mix on the center channel is a 50/50 with just
the SBD and Steve Maizner's AUD. I also D'EQ'd both sources
to pull up the vocals and give the center channel a unique
sound as not to detract from the front stereo imaging or the
rear surround effect. You will also note that the rear channels
are just Jerry's AUD and not a matrix of the 2 AUD sources. I
did give that configuration a listen but opted for the single
rear source. It was clearer and had more definition on its own.
d1t01 The first 16.041 seconds of Minglewood blues was cut on
the SBD. Starting this monster project with an unrecoverable
flaw was unacceptable to me. I decided to patch that opening
portion with a SBD and AUD recording from 5-7-77. As this
patch ends you will hear some slight phasing as the stereo
field moves. The result, although not perfect, I think
provides the listener with a more enjoyable and natural
listening experience. Maybe you disagree. For those of you
who would rather have a patch using a matrix mix of the 2 AUD
sources please feel free to do it yourself :^)
d1t07-08 The SBD is missing approx 34.361 from 42:47.001 -
43:16.362. This was patched using a matrix mix of the 2 AUD
sources and then EQ'ed to best match the sound spectrum of
the SBD. I also tried to match the volume on the SBD. A
switch in sources is obvious to the listener but this is
still pretty good. The switch back to SBD is actually
really good as there are no vocals at that point.
d2t02 A tiny right channel digital sizzle at 12:18.418.
This was fixed using a quick channel swap. This is smooth
and most likely undetectable.
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Burning Instructions A & B
A. Use DVD Decryptor or similar program to burn as an image
file (ISO) onto a DVDR. Enjoy.
B. This may also circulate as 2 channel FLAC files and will
require assembly. Included is the discwelder file. If you
use that program, decode all the FLAC file and stick them in
a folder. Click on the DiscWelder file (which will open
DiscWelder) and point it towards that folder with the wave
files and VIOLA! DVD-A pre-assembled and ready to author.
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- Addeddate
- 2008-08-10 07:50:49
- Identifier
- gd1977-05-08.mtx.dan.35086.flac24
- Location
- Ithaca, NY
- Transferred by
- Dan Haugh
- Type
- sound
- Year
- 1977
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Reviews
Subject: Merry Deadmas!!!
Today is such a beautiful day... May 8, 1977, I was T minus 4 years old!!! I first heard this show when I was around 15. Hooked ever since, 21 years later.. Today is may 8, 2018, and may it be a great one for all!!!!
Subject: archive no longer streams lossless of this show
Peace...
Subject: wow
Subject: I agree, not the best of Spring '77
Yes, the 2nd set is utterly mind-roasting, and stand among the best they had that spring. But there were others from the period that are just as strong...I reckon that the Saint Stephen -> Not Fade Away -> Saint Stephen -> Morning Dew, Encore One More Saturday Night is etched into the memory cells of every Deadhead, myself included, so much so that we tend to forget that there are other parts of the show as well, and that there are other shows at all.
4 stars for the show. 5 stars for the recording. So, in spite of the killer Matrix, among the best I've ever heard, the performance star trumps the recording star.
My $0.02.
Subject: .
Subject: Not fade
Subject: Closest Thing To Being There
Subject: Best Dead Show?
I'm not sure what to make of that statement. It's definitely one of their best but THE best? Still not sure. The second set alone is an undeniable force of nature climaxing in that incredible Morning Dew.
Best or otherwise, I'm glad this beautifully recorded and mastered copy is here to listen to... repeatedly.
Subject: Question about Rights/Usage
On another note, is anyone aware of the copyright status of these recordings? I'm asking with an intent to sample and use in derivative-type music making. I've been finding alot of good creative commons material on archive.org and wanted to know if these live recordings had the same kind of open usage allowances.
Subject: They should look no further
Subject: Worth All The Hype...
About best show ever.
Fabulous re-presentation of a fabulous re-mastering, and, what have you.
From the opening note a clear and defined co-tangent evolve and works exponentially on a gradual
tsunami.
This rates the Evan S. Hunt rating of "49 out of 50" Stars.
Clearly defined and,
Don' you forget it!
Subject: my best show ever
The hall had soaring ceilings like in a cathedral and the stage was accessible on three sides. We walked right up to Garcia's side and hung out. It was very loose. Every body got in that night. I think the dead handed out tongue depressors like in the doctors office with their rose logo stamped on them.
The concessions were run by college students and were serving coca cola in little wax cups. Other people (my friends) were adding additional liquids in the cups and passing them around. I gulped one down thinking it was coca cola. Around lazy lightning I had to lie down and did so right in front of the stage. Stayed there untill the break. Remember It was very loose and the ceilings soared. Later when the lights came on after the show the girl who served us the cokes was sweeping up and dancing with her broom around the hall. She was high as a kite. I have never seen anyone enjoy their work more except for the dead.
Outside it was snowing and a woman who looked like a bag lady from New York asked me where the bus to Buffalo was. She looked so out of place to me. Still a little befuddled I pointed her to the dead's touring bus as they were playing Buffalo the next night. Carrying her shopping bags with her possessions she headed to the bus. Just as she was about to get on board I called out why are you going to Buffalo? With a little dance and twist she said " to see the grateful dead of course". It was so surreal. Onto the bus she danced. It was a magical night!
Subject: Pristine
Subject: How do i get this to download!!
thanks for help!
Subject: OH YEAH!!!
Subject: Please Help
Subject: 24-bit a BIG difference!
Played through my 64-bit Sony DTS system (775w) with Bose 301 Series 2 in front and JBL 2800 nearfield studio monitors in back w/ 12" 175W Sony sub and Sony dual 4" center this recording makes the whole studio hum! I have three seperate groups of deer that have come out of the woods to listen, so far!!
Thanks Dan! Thanks so much for a GREAT job on this one...
Subject: Bottom
Nice setlist and oh, boy, what a period!
Subject: Epic show
However, like Bill Graham once said "You people always want more, more!" & I can't help but wish that Bobby would have been able to dig down deep & come up with some transcendent song to end the night with. Borrowing that, too bad he didn't bow to the moment & nudge Jerry towards the microphone & allow him to end the night with a Brokedown Palace or the like. Oh well, I can always dream . . .
Another great recording of an epic Grateful Dead show, love the audience / soundboard matrix.
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